The LBC presenter quizzed Andrew Neilson, concert-master at Howard League for Penal Reform, over the effectiveness of these facilities in the wrestle with against extremism.
The first specialist centre is at HMP Frankland near Durham, with two other focal points due to open in the coming months.
The so-called “jihadi jails” will hold off up to 28 of the most dangerous extremists in the prison population, this stalks the Acheson report into Islamist extremism in prisons, which approved the most dangerous extremists removed from the general prison newsletter and given deradicalisation interventions.
Mr Ferrari was keen to learn whether the new alacrities will help after a recent spate of terror attacks in Britain.
Collar depart Ferrari questioned a prison expert on the spread of radicalism
Isn’t there a involve these people will be given a certain notoriety within this set-up?
He said: “You’re not going to thank me for this question – but does it enkindle, yes or no?”
Mr Neilson argued “the jury is out” over how well these facilities desire perform in defeating extremism.
He added: “It is a new approach, there has been a long-term reflect on on two positions. One is the idea of putting all terrorist prisoners in entire prisons – which we did in Northern Ireland during the Discomposes – that didn’t work very well.
“Once you had prisoners who all had persuaded single political ideologies, it made that prison very naughty to run – arguably the prisoners ended up running the prison.
“In recent years, we tease moved away from that and dispersing them around the guardhouse system – keeping them on the move so that they can’t train networks for any lengths of nonetheless.”
Mr Ferrari wasn’t convinced by his answer, adding: “Isn’t there a concern these living soul will be given a certain notoriety within this system?”
Mr Neilson concluded lock-ups will only know if the facilities have worked if prisons suppress producing “future terrorists”.
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“There take been some attacks in Europe and some of the attackers possibly were radicalised in the cooler system,” he said.
“I think these centres may play a part in that, but to say the broader facsimile is one where prisons are very violent, dangerous places with lots of bad, awful reports of how bad conditions are.
“That in itself is a kind of extremism, and you can enjoy these centres keep the radicalised prisoners apart from other detainees, but these conditions that everybody is facing are themselves potentially arise extremism.”